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Pickup
ModelOrtofon M10Ortofon M10
TypeMMMM
Needle shapeellipticalelliptical
Output level4 mV4 mV
Downforce1.25 – 1.75 g1.25 – 1.75 g
Pickup weight2.5 g2.5 g
Tonearm
ModelTP 18TP 18
Typepivotalpivotal
Shapestraightstraight
Material
metal /aluminium/
metal /aluminium/
Tonearm effective length211 mm211 mm
Design
Drive unitbeltbelt
Speed controlelectronic/automaticelectronic/automatic
Cover
Phono stageis absentswitchable
Features
Features
adjustable counterweight
anti-skating
auto-stop
autoplay
speed 78 rpm
adjustable counterweight
anti-skating
auto-stop
autoplay
speed 78 rpm
Specs
Frequency range
20 – 20000 Hz /+3, -1 дБ/
20 – 20000 Hz /+3, -1 дБ/
Signal to noise ratio72 dB68 dB
Knock ratio0.07 %0.12 %
General
Power consumption2 W2 W
Base materialMDF/FibreboardMDF/Fibreboard
Platter material
metal /aluminium/
metal /aluminium/
Platter size304 mm304 mm
Platter weight0.7 kg0.4 kg
Dimensions (WxDxH)440x360x119 mm440x360x119 mm
Turntable weight6.5 kg4.6 kg
Added to E-Catalogdecember 2015december 2015

Phono stage

A phono stage is a specially designed preamp used with vinyl record pickups. Initially, the sound on such records was recorded with a distortion of the amplitude-frequency characteristic, namely, with an increase in volume from low frequencies to high ones; this is due to the technical features of the recording process. Accordingly, the phono stage not only amplifies the signal to a level sufficient to supply power to the amplifier, but also corrects the frequency response, “pulling out” the bass and reducing the volume of the high frequencies. And the built-in phono stage allows you to connect the player to the power amplifier directly, without the use of intermediate equipment. However according to the characteristics, the built-in preamplifiers-correctors are inferior to external ones. Therefore, in some models with this function , bypass mode may be provided, which allows you to send a signal bypassing the built-in phono stage to an external, more advanced one. And also there are even vinyl players without a phono stage.

Signal to noise ratio

The ratio between the useful signal and extraneous noise at the output of the player. It is also colloquially called "electrical noise" (although this is not entirely true).

The higher this indicator, the quieter the noise (it is impossible to completely eliminate them), the clearer the signal will be. In the case of turntables, the signal-to-noise ratio is considered to be at least 50 dB; and in the most high-end devices it can exceed 90 dB.

Note that this paragraph may additionally indicate the value of mechanical noise. Despite the similarity in name, this is a completely different indicator — it describes the volume of extraneous sounds produced by the motor, drive and other moving parts of the "turntable". Accordingly, for mechanical noise, the lower the decibels, the better. You can estimate its approximate level using special comparative tables.

Knock ratio

The maximum knock factor that the turntable is subject to under normal conditions.

Detonation in this case is called sound distortion associated with short-term periodic irregularities in the rotation of the disk. The lower the detonation coefficient, the lower the level of such distortions; it is believed that for audiophile-class equipment it should not exceed 0.2%, although in more modest models it may be higher.

Note that for different playback speeds, knock coefficients can also be different. Manufacturers in such cases may indicate the minimum value, despite the fact that it can be achieved not at the usual 33 rpm, but at 45 or even 78 rpm. Therefore, when choosing a high-end turntable, it's ok to clarify this point.

Platter weight

The weight of the disk on which the record is mounted. The smoothness of the ride and the ability to compensate for uneven rotation of the engine due to the inertia of the disk directly depend on this indicator. Therefore, among audiophiles, there is a reasonable opinion that the more massive the disc, the better; in top models, its weight can be measured in tens of kilograms. On the other hand, a heavy disk accelerates slowly (in some models it even needs to be pushed by hand at the start), and scratching on such a “turntable” would be very difficult, if not impossible. Therefore, for a DJ player, a large disc weight, on the contrary, will be redundant.
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