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Vogels TVM 1213
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Vogels TVM 1213
level
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 43 "
Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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Vogels PFW 6810
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Vogels PFW 6810
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 55 ", up to 80 "
Maximum load:
75 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400, 800x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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Vogels Thin 415
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Vogels Thin 415
level
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 26 ", up to 55 "
Maximum load:
18 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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Vogels TVM 1445
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Vogels TVM 1445
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 32 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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2
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10
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Vogels TVM 1245
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Vogels TVM 1245
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 43 "
Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
2
Photos
10
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£78.77
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Vogels BASE 15S
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Vogels BASE 15S
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 43 "
Maximum load:
20 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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Vogels MA2030
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Vogels MA2030
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 40 "
Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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3
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Vogels MA2010
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Vogels MA2010
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 40 "
Maximum load:
30 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
2
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£15.99
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£22.99
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Vogels MA1010
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Vogels MA1010
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 26 "
Maximum load:
30 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
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£11.30
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£15.95
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Vogels WALL 3315
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Vogels WALL 3315
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 40 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
40 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
8
Prices
1
£
84.95
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Vogels TVM 1615
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Vogels TVM 1615
level
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 40 ", up to 77 "
Maximum load:
35 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
10
Prices
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£40.67
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£70.00
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Vogels BASE 45S
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Vogels BASE 45S
cable management
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 40 "
Maximum load:
20 kg
VESA:
100x100, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
5
Prices
1
£
94.99
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Vogels TVM 1215
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Vogels TVM 1215
level
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 43 "
Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
10
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£29.95
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£35.95
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Vogels MA3030
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Vogels MA3030
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 32 ", up to 55 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
3
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Vogels BASE 15M
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Vogels BASE 15M
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 32 ", up to 55 "
Maximum load:
30 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
2
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£45.09
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Vogels TVM 1413
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Vogels TVM 1413
level
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 32 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
2
Photos
8
Prices
1
£
38.99
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Vogels PFW 4210
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Vogels PFW 4210
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 10 ", up to 42 "
Maximum load:
30 kg
VESA:
50x50, 75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Высота крепления:
53 mm
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
3
Prices
1
£
22.99
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Vogels TVM 1443
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Vogels TVM 1443
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 32 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
2
Photos
10
Prices
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£
99.99
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Vogels TVM 1625
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Vogels TVM 1625
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 40 ", up to 77 "
Maximum load:
35 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
2
Photos
10
Prices
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£123.69
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£150.00
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Vogels WALL 3350
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Vogels WALL 3350
cable management
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 40 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
45 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
9
Prices
1
£
169.00
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Vogels Thin 515
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Vogels Thin 515
cable management
level
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 40 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Photos
4
Prices
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£115.99
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Vogels TVM 1425
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Vogels TVM 1425
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 32 ", up to 65 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
2
Photos
10
Prices
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£69.00
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£109.00
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Vogels TVM 1645
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Vogels TVM 1645
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 40 ", up to 77 "
Maximum load:
35 kg
VESA:
100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200, 200х300, 200x400, 300x200, 300x300, 300x400, 400x200, 400x300, 400x400, 500x400, 600x400
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
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Photos
10
Prices
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£190.38
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Vogels TVM 1225
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Vogels TVM 1225
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 19 ", up to 43 "
Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 100x200, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
15 °
Videos
2
Photos
10
Prices
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£40.13
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£70.00
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800x600mm
800x800mm
900x400 mm
900x500 mm
900x600 mm
1000x500mm
1000x600 mm
Desk mount installation
stand
clamp
bolt-through
Number of mounts
for 1 panel
for 2 panels
for 3 panels
for 4 panels
More features
for curved TV
cable management
USB hub
portrait orientation
built-in level
transportation wheels
drawers
closed compartments
Min. distance from the wall
≤ 25 mm
26 – 50 mm
51 – 75 mm
76 – 100 mm
101 – 125 mm
> 125 mm
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Max. distance from the wall
≤ 25 mm
26 – 50 mm
51 – 100 mm
101 – 250 mm
251 – 400 mm
401 – 600 mm
> 600 mm
Max. downward tilt angle
≤ 10°
11 – 15°
16 – 20°
> 20°
Open shelves
1 shelf
2 shelves
3 shelves
≥ 4 shelves
Stand material
wood
metal
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VESA mount dimensions
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