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Roadmarch Snowrover 868 235/60 R17 102H
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Roadmarch Snowrover 868 235/60 R17 102H
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Arivo Terrano ARV H/T 265/70 R17 115H
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Arivo Terrano ARV H/T 265/70 R17 115H
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Petlas Velox Sport PT741 235/55 R17 103W
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Petlas Velox Sport PT741 235/55 R17 103W
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BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM3 265/70 R17 121Q
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BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM3 265/70 R17 121Q
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Nexen N`Fera Sport SU2 225/60 R17 99V
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Nexen N`Fera Sport SU2 225/60 R17 99V
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225/60 R17
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Uniroyal RainSport 5 215/50 R17 91Y
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Uniroyal RainSport 5 215/50 R17 91Y
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Atlas AS380 225/50 R17 94V
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Hankook Dynapro AT2 RF11 265/65 R17 112T
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Maxxis Premitra HP5 215/45 R17 91W
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Maxxis Premitra HP5 215/45 R17 91W
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W
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Fulda SportControl 2 245/45 R17 99Y
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Fulda SportControl 2 245/45 R17 99Y
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Kleber Citilander 225/65 R17 102H
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Kleber Citilander 225/65 R17 102H
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Barum Bravuris 5HM 235/65 R17 108V
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Barum Bravuris 5HM 235/65 R17 108V
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Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 225/65 R17 102H
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10
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Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 205/55 R17 95V
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Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 205/55 R17 95V
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4
24
24
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91
V
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W
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V
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Sailun Ice Blazer Alpine EVO 225/60 R17 99H
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Barum Bravuris 5HM 245/45 R17 99Y
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Hankook Ventus S1 Evo2 SUV K117A 235/65 R17 104V
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Hankook Ventus S1 Evo2 SUV K117A 235/65 R17 104V
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Lanvigator CatchPower Plus 215/55 R17 98W
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Lanvigator CatchPower Plus 215/55 R17 98W
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Triangle TR292 225/65 R17 106T
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Triangle TH201 245/45 R17 99Y
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VIKING ProTech NewGen 235/55 R17 103Y
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Cooper Discoverer STT Pro 295/70 R17 121Q
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Yokohama Geolandar X-AT G016 285/70 R17 121Q
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Continental ContiCrossContact LX2 235/55 R17 99V
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> 345 mm
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9.5"
10.5"
11.5"
12.5"
13.5"
> 13.5"
Aspect ratio (%)
25
30
35
40
45
50
55
60
65
70
75
80
82
85
≥ 90
Suitable for
passenger cars & SUV
sports track
all-terrain
mud-terrain
commercial
Speed rating
< 150 km/h
P/150 km/h
Q/160 km/h
R/170 km/h
S/180km/h
T/190 km/h
U/200 km/h
H/210 km/h
V/240 km/h
W/270 km/h
Y/300 km/h
Load index
≤ 85 (515 kg)
86 – 90 (530 – 600 kg)
91 – 95 (615 – 690 kg)
96 – 100 (710 – 800 kg)
101 – 110 (825 – 1060 kg)
111 – 120 (1090 – 1400 kg)
≥ 121 (1.45 t)
Rating tests (editor's view)
TOP 3
TOP 5
TOP 7
More features
RunFlat
no RunFlat
Seal (puncture sealing)
fuel-efficient
roll up
more
Tread pattern
directional symmetric
directional asymmetric
non-directional symmetric
non-directional asymmetric
Fuel efficiency
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
Wet grip rate
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
Wear resistance (Treadwear)
≤ 250
251 – 300
301 – 350
> 350
Noise level
low noise tyres ( ≤ 70 dB)
average noise (71 – 73 dB)
noisy tyres ( ≥ 74 dB)
Homologation
Audi
Audi RS
Alfa Romeo
Aston Martin
Bentley
BMW / Mini
BMW M
Ferrari
Ford
Hyundai
Honda
Jeep
Jaguar / Land Rover
Lamborghini
Lancia
Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes-AMG
Maserati
McLaren
Nissan
Opel
Peugeot / Citroen
Porsche
Renault
Rolls-Royce
SEAT / Skoda
Toyota
Tesla
Volvo
Volkswagen
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