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Unigrip Lateral Force A/T 215/65 R17 99H
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Unigrip Lateral Force A/T 215/65 R17 99H
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BF Goodrich Trail-Terrain T/A 225/65 R17 102T
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BF Goodrich Trail-Terrain T/A 225/65 R17 102T
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Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 225/60 R17 99H
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Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 225/60 R17 99H
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BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 315/70 R17 121S
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BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 315/70 R17 121S
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All-Terrain
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HIFLY Win-Turi 212 215/60 R17 96H
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HIFLY Win-Turi 212 215/60 R17 96H
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Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3 235/65 R17 108S
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Mirage MR-W562 225/50 R17 98H
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Mirage MR-W562 225/50 R17 98H
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Toyo Celsius Cargo 215/60 R17C 109T
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Toyo Celsius Cargo 215/60 R17C 109T
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Windforce Catchfors H/T 225/60 R17 103V
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Windforce Catchfors H/T 225/60 R17 103V
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Cooper Discoverer A/T3 Sport 2 265/65 R17 112T
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Cooper Discoverer A/T3 Sport 2 265/65 R17 112T
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Vredestein Wintrac Pro 225/50 R17 98H
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Bridgestone Blizzak Ice 215/55 R17 98T
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Bridgestone Blizzak Ice 215/55 R17 98T
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Nexen Winguard Sport 2 225/60 R17 103H
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Nexen Winguard Sport 2 225/60 R17 103H
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Toyo Observe GSi-6 HP 235/45 R17 97H
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Toyo Observe GSi-6 HP 235/45 R17 97H
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0
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Vredestein Wintrac Pro 225/45 R17 94H
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91
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H
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Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3 285/65 R17 116R
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Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3 285/65 R17 116R
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Windforce Catchfors H/T 215/60 R17 100V
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Windforce Catchfors H/T 215/60 R17 100V
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Powertrac CityRover 285/65 R17 116H
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Powertrac CityRover 285/65 R17 116H
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Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure 255/65 R17 110T
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Toyo Proxes Sport 225/45 R17 94Y
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Toyo Proxes Sport 225/45 R17 94Y
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Toyo Observe G3-Ice 215/60 R17 100T
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0
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General Snow Grabber Plus 215/60 R17 96H
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General Snow Grabber Plus 215/60 R17 96H
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Gislaved Euro Frost 6 225/60 R17 103H
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Gislaved Euro Frost 6 225/60 R17 103H
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11.5"
12.5"
13.5"
> 13.5"
Aspect ratio (%)
25
30
35
40
45
50
55
60
65
70
75
80
82
85
≥ 90
Suitable for
passenger cars & SUV
sports track
all-terrain
mud-terrain
commercial
Speed rating
< 150 km/h
P/150 km/h
Q/160 km/h
R/170 km/h
S/180km/h
T/190 km/h
U/200 km/h
H/210 km/h
V/240 km/h
W/270 km/h
Y/300 km/h
Load index
≤ 85 (515 kg)
86 – 90 (530 – 600 kg)
91 – 95 (615 – 690 kg)
96 – 100 (710 – 800 kg)
101 – 110 (825 – 1060 kg)
111 – 120 (1090 – 1400 kg)
≥ 121 (1.45 t)
Rating tests (editor's view)
TOP 3
TOP 5
TOP 7
More features
RunFlat
no RunFlat
Seal (puncture sealing)
fuel-efficient
roll up
more
Tread pattern
directional symmetric
directional asymmetric
non-directional symmetric
non-directional asymmetric
Fuel efficiency
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
Wet grip rate
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
Wear resistance (Treadwear)
≤ 250
251 – 300
301 – 350
> 350
Noise level
low noise tyres ( ≤ 70 dB)
average noise (71 – 73 dB)
noisy tyres ( ≥ 74 dB)
Homologation
Audi
Audi RS
Alfa Romeo
Aston Martin
Bentley
BMW / Mini
BMW M
Ferrari
Ford
Hyundai
Honda
Jeep
Jaguar / Land Rover
Lamborghini
Lancia
Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes-AMG
Maserati
McLaren
Nissan
Opel
Peugeot / Citroen
Porsche
Renault
Rolls-Royce
SEAT / Skoda
Toyota
Tesla
Volvo
Volkswagen
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