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Maclean MC-987
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Maclean MC-987
Type:
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Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 27 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
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NewStar NS-DPOS100BLACK
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NewStar NS-DPOS100BLACK
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15 kg
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AOC AS110D0
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AOC AS110D0
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Maximum load:
9 kg
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Maclean MC-691
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Maclean MC-691
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Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 27 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
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NewStar FPMA-D550BLACK
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NewStar FPMA-D550BLACK
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Screen size:
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Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
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Startech.com ARMWALL
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Startech.com ARMWALL
curved TV
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Type:
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Screen size:
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Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
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NewStar FPMA-D510BLACK
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NewStar FPMA-D510BLACK
rotation
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 10 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
45 °
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NewStar FPMA-D550DDBLACK
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NewStar FPMA-D550DDBLACK
rotation
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 10 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
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Downward tilt angle:
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LogiLink BP0021
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LogiLink BP0021
rotation
portrait orientation
Type:
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Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 27 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
45 °
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Digitus DA-90362
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Digitus DA-90362
rotation
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 15 ", up to 27 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
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LogiLink BP0020
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LogiLink BP0020
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portrait orientation
Type:
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Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 27 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
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NewStar FPMA-W810
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NewStar FPMA-W810
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 10 ", up to 27 "
Maximum load:
12 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
45 °
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NewStar WL70-450BL11
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NewStar WL70-450BL11
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Type:
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Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
9 kg
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Downward tilt angle:
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NanoRS RS162
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NanoRS RS162
rotation
cable management
portrait orientation
Type:
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Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
40 °
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B-Tech BT7514
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B-Tech BT7514
Type:
wall
Screen size:
up to 47 "
Maximum load:
25 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100, 200x100, 200x200
Downward tilt angle:
40 °
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LogiLink BP0086
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LogiLink BP0086
rotation
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
9 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
40 °
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Fellowes Vista Single Monitor Arm
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Fellowes Vista Single Monitor Arm
Professional
rotation
cable management
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 15 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
10 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
37 °
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Gembird MA-DA1P-01
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Gembird MA-DA1P-01
rotation
cable management
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
9 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
35 °
Videos
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Photos
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Gembird MA-DA2P-01
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Gembird MA-DA2P-01
rotation
cable management
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
9 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
35 °
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Maclean MC-675
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Maclean MC-675
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 42 "
Maximum load:
20 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
35 °
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MANHATTAN 461603
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MANHATTAN 461603
rotation
cable management
portrait orientation
Type:
wall
Screen size:
from 17 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
75x75, 100x100
Downward tilt angle:
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Endorfy Atlas Single
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Endorfy Atlas Single
rotation
portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
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Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
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Downward tilt angle:
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ONKRON G70
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ONKRON G70
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portrait orientation
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 32 "
Maximum load:
8 kg
VESA:
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Downward tilt angle:
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Hama 118494
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Hama 118494
cable management
Type:
desktop
Screen size:
from 13 ", up to 35 "
Maximum load:
15 kg
VESA:
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Downward tilt angle:
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50x50mm
75x75mm
100x100 mm
100x200mm
200x100mm
200x200mm
200x300 mm
200x400mm
300x200mm
300x300mm
300x400mm
400x200mm
400x300mm
400x400mm
500x400mm
600x400mm
600x600mm
700x400mm
800x400mm
800x600mm
800x800mm
900x400 mm
900x500 mm
900x600 mm
1000x500mm
1000x600 mm
Desk mount installation
stand
clamp
bolt-through
Number of mounts
for 1 panel
for 2 panels
for 3 panels
for 4 panels
More features
for curved TV
cable management
USB hub
portrait orientation
built-in level
transportation wheels
drawers
closed compartments
Min. distance from the wall
≤ 25 mm
26 – 50 mm
51 – 75 mm
76 – 100 mm
101 – 125 mm
> 125 mm
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Max. distance from the wall
≤ 25 mm
26 – 50 mm
51 – 100 mm
101 – 250 mm
251 – 400 mm
401 – 600 mm
> 600 mm
Max. downward tilt angle
≤ 10°
11 – 15°
16 – 20°
> 20°
Open shelves
1 shelf
2 shelves
3 shelves
≥ 4 shelves
Stand material
wood
metal
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