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Mammut Tyin MTI 5-season 180
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Mammut Tyin MTI 5-season 180
compression bag
3 layers
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
2.84 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -10 °C,
min. -12 °C
, extreme -25 °C
Dimensions:
197х83х53 cm, for height up to 180 cm, folded 38.5х28.5х28.5 cm
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Marmot Micron 25
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Marmot Micron 25
for women
compression bag
two way zipper
fluff
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.16 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -6 °C,
min. -12 °C
, extreme -32 °C
Dimensions:
for height up to 168 cm, folded 41х23х23 cm
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Mountain Equipment Helium 600 Long
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Mountain Equipment Helium 600 Long
fluff
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.23 kg
Season:
winter
t°:
comfort -5 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -31 °C
Dimensions:
207x78x52 cm, for height up to 197 cm, folded 25x23x20 cm
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Mountain Equipment Helium 600 Women's Regular
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Mountain Equipment Helium 600 Women's Regular
for women
lightweight
fluff
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
0.86 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -5 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -31 °C
Dimensions:
180x75x50 cm, for height up to 170 cm, folded 23x22x22 cm
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Ferrino Lightec 1200 Duvet
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Ferrino Lightec 1200 Duvet
compression bag
fluff
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.15 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn, summer
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -30 °C
Dimensions:
215x80x50 cm, folded 39x20x20 cm
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Kelty Cosmic Synthetic 20 W Regular
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Kelty Cosmic Synthetic 20 W Regular
for women
Type:
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Format:
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Weight:
1.7 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
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Dimensions:
for height up to 172 cm, folded 41x25 cm
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Simond Makalu I Light M
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Simond Makalu I Light M
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front zipper
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Type:
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Format:
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Weight:
1.07 kg
Season:
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t°:
comfort -5 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -31 °C
Dimensions:
for height up to 170 cm, folded 35х19х19 cm
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Altus Tibet 1800 H30
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Altus Tibet 1800 H30
compression bag
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.8 kg
Season:
winter
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -30 °C
Dimensions:
220х80х55 cm, for height up to 190 cm, folded 40x24x24 cm
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Vango Nitestar Alpha 450
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Vango Nitestar Alpha 450
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
2.3 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn, summer
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -31 °C
Dimensions:
210x85x48 cm, for height up to 190 cm, folded 32x24x24 cm
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Vango Latitude Pro 400
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Vango Latitude Pro 400
compression bag
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
2.1 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn, summer
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -30 °C
Dimensions:
205x78x48 cm
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Sea To Summit Trek TkIII Ultra Dry Reg
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Sea To Summit Trek TkIII Ultra Dry Reg
compression bag
fluff
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.19 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -5 °C,
min. -11 °C
, extreme -30 °C
Dimensions:
for height up to 183 cm, folded 46x20x20 cm
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Mammut Women's Perform Down Winter
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Mammut Women's Perform Down Winter
for women
compression bag
front zipper
fluff
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.09 kg
Season:
winter
t°:
comfort -3 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -29 °C
Dimensions:
for height up to 180 cm, folded 29х23х23 cm
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Deuter Exosphere -10 SL (2019)
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Deuter Exosphere -10 SL (2019)
for women
compression bag
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.78 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -30 °C
Dimensions:
198x85x68 cm, for height up to 175 cm, folded 35x22x22 cm
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Snugpak Softie 12 Osprey
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Snugpak Softie 12 Osprey
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
2 kg
Season:
winter
t°:
min. -10 °C
, extreme -15 °C
Dimensions:
220x80x40 cm
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Sea To Summit Flame FmIII Women’s Reg
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Sea To Summit Flame FmIII Women’s Reg
for women
lightweight
compression bag
fluff
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
0.67 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -29 °C
Dimensions:
170х75х71 cm, for height up to 170 cm, folded 35x15x15 cm
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Mammut Women's Perform Fiber Winter
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Mammut Women's Perform Fiber Winter
for women
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front zipper
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.72 kg
Season:
winter
t°:
comfort -3 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -29 °C
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205х80х55 cm, for height up to 180 cm, folded 31.5х29.5х29.5 cm
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fluff
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.09 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -2 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -26 °C
Dimensions:
210х75х53 cm, for height up to 185 cm, folded 36х20х20 cm
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Deuter Astro Pro 600
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Deuter Astro Pro 600
fluff
Type:
expeditionary
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.19 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -5 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -30 °C
Dimensions:
205x86x57 cm, folded 38x18x18 cm
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Highlander Serenity 450 Mummy -10
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Highlander Serenity 450 Mummy -10
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
2 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -10 °C
Dimensions:
220х80x55 cm
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Vaude Hochgrat 700
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Vaude Hochgrat 700
compression bag
fluff
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.45 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -3 °C,
min. -10 °C
, extreme -29 °C
Dimensions:
220х80х55 cm, for height up to 185 cm, folded 34х25x25 cm
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Coleman Basalt Single
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Coleman Basalt Single
long
Type:
camping
Format:
blanket bag
Weight:
2.2 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -3 °C,
min. -9 °C
, extreme -28 °C
Dimensions:
235х90х90 cm, for height up to 200 cm, folded 43х40х20 cm
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Mountain Hardwear Lamina 15F/-9C Reg
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Mountain Hardwear Lamina 15F/-9C Reg
Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
1.3 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn
t°:
comfort -4 °C,
min. -9 °C
, extreme -27 °C
Dimensions:
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Vango Nitestar Alpha 375
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Vango Nitestar Alpha 375
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Type:
trekking
Format:
bag-cocoon
Weight:
2.1 kg
Season:
winter
t°:
comfort -2 °C,
min. -9 °C
, extreme -28 °C
Dimensions:
205x85x50 cm, for height up to 190 cm, folded 31х24х24 cm
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Outwell Camper Supreme
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Outwell Camper Supreme
long
Type:
camping
Format:
blanket bag
Weight:
3 kg
Season:
winter, spring/autumn, summer
t°:
comfort -3 °C,
min. -9 °C
, extreme -28 °C
Dimensions:
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from +1 to +5 °C
from +6 to +10 °C
from +11 to +15 °C
above +15 °C
comfort t° (for men)
below -15 °C
from -16 to -10 °С
from -9 to -5 °C
from -4 to 0 °C
from +1 to +5 °С
from +6 to +10 °С
above +10 °C
Length
≤ 170cm
171 – 190 cm
191 – 210 cm
211 – 230 cm
> 230 cm
Width at shoulders
≤ 80cm
81 – 90 cm
91 – 100 cm
> 1 m
Recommended height, up to
≤ 180cm
181 – 185 cm
186 – 190 cm
191 – 195 cm
196 – 200 cm
> 200 cm
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Zipper
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frontal
double-sided
is absent
Inner material
polyester
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cotton
fleece
polycotton
flannel
Insulation
synthetics
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fluff
Insulation layers
2 layers
3 layers
4 layers
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