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Daiwa Ninja Sp Tsuki Spinning Rod Silver 2.74 m / 14-42 g NJSP902HFSECF
A complete series whose variety of actions will allow each fisherman to find a product adapted to his fishing. The Ninja are designed to match the famous reel of the same name to create a set with impeccable aesthetics.Features:
- Carbon blank- Inverted plug- Aluminum oxide rings Threaded tubular reel seat- Full-length retractable rubber cuff- Strong progressive action
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DAIWA Exceler Jiggerspin 902ML 2 Sections 270m 7-28g Jigger Spinning Fishi
Rod length: 2.70 metres Casting weight: 7 - 28 grams Weight: 150 grams Number of sections: 2, Number of guides: 8 Rod action: Extra Fast, Transport length: 139 centimetres
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Daiwa Black Gold Seabass Spinning Rod Black 2.21 m / 14-42 g BG732HFSOSCF
BG Seabass rods have been rehoned and remain the ideal partner for the reels of the same name. These powerful blanks have been designed in HVF carbon wrapped using x45 carbon technology for heightened resistance to compression and torque as well as a faster return to true. Featuring Fuji Alconite Concept O guides, BG rods cover all sea fishing situations with a span of sizes running from 2.13m to 3.2m and casting weights going from 5 to 120g! Historically, BG stands for Black Gold and with a classy colour scheme to match that heritage, these rods feel like top-of-the-range kit. The carbon reel seat, gunsmoke guides, carbon detail on the butt, and black finish on the whipping ensure the quality …
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Daiwa Super Kenzaki Boat - 7'0 6-12LB 2PC SKZB7012-BU
Daiwa Super Kenzaki Boat Rods The Super Kenzaki boat rods require little introduction to the majority of serious boat anglers. Legendary in their versatility, each rod is noticeably light and balanced with substantial power in reserve, and transmits remarkable feel with a degree of sensitivity that magnifies all that is going on under the water. This latest generation of rods have been given a cosmetic 'facelift' and are available in a wide range of line classes, to suit the majority of boat fishing situations in U.K.waters. The selection of top-grade materials and Daiwa's advanced blank design has allowed them to create these incredibly light rods, each with a responsive tip that …
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Daiwa Rx Lure Game 782 Ulxfs Af Spinning Rod Silver 2.34 m / 2-10 g RX782U
The Daiwa RX is an ideal economic model to start in disciplines such as spinning, rock fishing and even eging.Features:- Carbon blank- Screw-in reel seat EVA handleSpecifications
:- SIC single leg guides Sections: 2- Action: 2-10 gr- Length: 2.34m
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Daiwa Connoisseur Pro Match Rod - 14' CNPM14W-BU
The Connoisseur name is synonymous with the very best float rods ever made. Originally designed for wild waters this Connoisseur Pro collection has been designed for precisely that. Utilizing premium tech such as X45 combined with High Volume Fibre, ensure the optimum benefit of balance, feel, and power. The longer models betray their true length with the 14' and 15' models being available in power editions too. The Connoisseur name is synonymous with the very best float rods ever made. Originally designed for wild waters this Connoisseur Pro collection has been designed for precisely that. Utilizing premium tech such as X45 combined with High Volume Fibre, ensure the optimum be…
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Daiwa Crosscast Surf - 13'10 100-225g 3pc CRS33-423H-BF
Designed for distance beach work with a big fixed spool, over clean to medium ground. The built in carbon Hybrid Tip, ensures bite detection across the species mix, especially where smaller ‘match winning’ fish matter. The three section premium grade blanks are suited to casting weights of 100g~225g and delivering casting distances of 150yds plus. Each is furnished with Fuji LC low rider guides and Fuji reel seat. Premium carbon blanks Put in joints Fuji DPS reel seat Fuji LC Low Rider guides Hybrid carbon solid tip Rubber butt cap
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Daiwa Fuego Spinning Rod Silver 2.13 m / 14-42 g FU702HFSBF
The DAIWA Fuego Spinning Rod in black and red is a high-quality fishing rod designed for spinning reels. It features a lightweight and durable construction, making it ideal for long days on the water. The rod is equipped with high-quality guides and a comfortable handle for optimum control and performance. Whether you're targeting bass, trout, or any other freshwater or saltwater species, the DAIWA Fuego Spinning Rod is sure to meet your fishing needs.
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Daiwa Black Widow Barbel Rod 12' 2.25lb BWB2214-BU
FEATURES • Medium Grade Carbon Blanks • Eva Arm Lock Hybrid Handle • Hybrid Handle, Downlocking Dps Reel Seat • Dedicated Hook Keeper
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Daiwa Triforce Tele Coup Rod Golden 4.00 m TFTE40BF
Reliability and robustness top the list of the Triforce Whip´s key assets. Designed for targeting small to medium stamp silverfish. The 7m and 8m models are ideal for reaching out to longer distances. This new generation of whips boasts a matt-finished butt for a more comfortable grip and Micropitch sections for heightened sensitivity.Features
: - Carbon and composite blank- Telescopic- Smooth handle- Progressive action- ABS screw-in cap at base - Hollow carbon tip Specifications:- Length: 3,00 m- Sections: 3- Weight: 96 g- External tip diameter: 1.9 mm
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Daiwa Prorex E Shad Distance Spinning Rod Silver 2.72 m / 14-56 g PXE902HX
The range of Prorex E rods covers all predator fishing. Power ranges from 2-8g to 28-84g offer a wide range of possibilities. Indeed, from light fishing for perch, vertical fishing or scratching the bottom for zander to fishing for pike with large soft lures, the range is complete. Its advanced action allows the use of both soft lures and artificial fish. Made of high modulus carbon, they are equipped with an ergonomic hollowed-out reel seat that allows direct access to the carbon. 45° carbon layups reinforce the heel. The ring ramp is signed by Fuji with the K frame model adorned with Alconite ceramic specially designed for braiding.Features:- High modulus carbon blank- Fuji K Alconite guides E…
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Daiwa Exceler Spinning Rod Green 2.13 m / 14-42 g EX702HFSDF
Features:- HVF (High Volume Fiber) carbon blank mounted with x45 technology- Reverse shank except telescopic EX63TXHFSCF model- Fuji Concept O Rings- DAIWA exclusive ergonomic polycarbonate reel seat- EVA handle- Peak action- Metal lure hook- DAIWA medallion at the base of the heel
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Daiwa Exceler Spinning Rod Green 1.98 m / 5-21 g EX662MXSDF
Features:- HVF (High Volume Fiber) carbon blank mounted with x45 technology- Reverse shank except telescopic EX63TXHFSCF model- Fuji Concept O Rings- DAIWA exclusive ergonomic polycarbonate reel seat- EVA handle- Peak action- Metal lure hook- DAIWA medallion at the base of the heel
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Daiwa Ninja Pellet Waggler , Black
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The Daiwa Ninja Pellet Waggler Rods have been built with two piece sections, featuring a DPS down-locking reel seat and a hook keeper ring, enabling you to wind in your line tight when on the move. With stainless steel frame guides fitted throughout with titanium oxide rings, this rod will allow your line to pass through smoothly.Premium carbon blanksEVA fore grip2 sectionsDPS down locking reel seatCork with EVA armlock handleStainless steel frame guidesTitanium Oxide RingsHook keeperSupplied with a rod bagCasting weight: 5-15gTest curve: 3-10lb
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Daiwa Prorex E Spinning Rod Black 2.13 m / 10-35 g PXE702HMHFSAF
Prorex E rods form the most comprehensive offer on the market for baitcasting for predators and above all pike. These new blanks have been finished with Fuji Fazlite guides. Their HVF carbon has been wrapped using x45 technology and reinforced with 3DX carbon for a sensation on the bank. Power for the cast and fight and sensitivity for animation and the two by-words for this range. Freshwater anglers now have 15 Prorex rods in the arsenal for predator work.Features:- HVF carbon blank built with x45 technology and reinforced with 3DX carbon- V-Joint- Fuji K FaZlite guides- Fuji Skeleton SKSS reel seat with DPS/ASH locking nut.- Direct carbon handle- Fine tip action- Prorex metal butt capSpecifications:- …
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Daiwa X4 Trout Fly Rod - 9'' #7/8 DTXF9074-AU
The forgiving 'mid action' of the X4 trout fly rods makes them perfect for any beginner to fly fishing. Thanks to the HMC material, the four-section assembly gives up little casting power, staying responsive and light to handle. MODEL LENGTH WGT. AFTM SECTIONS DTXF8044-AU 8' 97g #4/5 4 DTXF8654-AU 8'6'' 105g #5/6 4 DTXF9054-AU 9' 109g #5/6 4 DTXF9064-AU 9'6" 107g #5/6 4 DTXF9074-AU 9' 113g #7/8 …
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Daiwa Sweepfire Spin 210 m 5-25 g Spinning Rod 2-Piece Spin Rod 11446-210
Variant Features: 2.10 m, 5-25 g Length: 2.10 m. Casting weight: 5-25 g. Medium action almost. Transport length: 1.10 m. Parts 2. Rings 7. Weight: 125 g. 2.10 m, 10-40 g Length: 2.10 m. Casting weight: 10-40 g. Medium action almost. Transport length: 1.10 m. Parts 2. Rings 7. Weight: 160 g. 2.40 m, 10-40 g
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Daiwa Silver Creek Réglable Rscl Bolognese Rod Golden 5.00 m SCT50RSCLDF
The series of adjustable Silvercreek rods are built on exceptional blanks. The SVF Nanoplus carbon increases sensitivity and guarantees perfect balance even when fishing at full length. The anti-slip finish guarantees comfortable handling and the FUJI keeper ring makes life easy when moving swims. The range covers from 5 to 8m.Features:- Carbon blank SVF (Super-high-Volume Fiber) Nanoplus- Tele-adjustable (2 rings for the 5 m, 3 for the 6 m and 4 for 7 m)- Single leg SIC guides SiC, the sliding guides are whipped on tubes- Rack reel seat Fuji NS-6- Smooth handle with anti-slip varnish around the reel seat- Fast sensitive action- Fuji SAEM keeper ring - Screw-in anti-shock cap at base - Nylon …
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Daiwa Procaster Sea Trout Spinning Rod Green 3.60 m / 10-50 g PRST363HRSCF
Features:- Carbon blank- Reverse shank for 302. Combination of straight and reverse shank for 3-section models- Aluminum oxide single leg rings (the first is double leg)- Tubular screw reel seat- Cork handle- Progressive tip action for MR models and rapid for HR models- Cork knob- Metal line hook
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Daiwa Powermesh Seabass Jigging Rod Silver 4.50 m / 50-150 g PMSB450HFSAF
The Powermesh Seabass are casting rods, they can be used for the bubble, for big lures, for jigs, but also for certain fishing with lead lures under the boat.Features:- High modulus carbon blank- Ergonomic tubular screw-in reel seat- Fuji K Alconite guides EVA handle and cork in the upper part- Tip action- Hook lure
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Daiwa Lag Spinning Combo Black 2.13 m / 14-42 g SETLAG02
Lure combo. Laguna Spinning rod made from high modulus carbon with overfit joint and one-footed Fuji Concept O guides.- Laguna LT reel with ATD drag, full size drag button, 2 + 1 bearings, DS4 polycarbonate body and Air Rotor, aluminium spool and cross-spire line lay.Specifications:- Length: 2.13m - Sections: 2- Travel size: 110cm - Weight: 141g - Guides: 7- Casting weight: 7-28g - Cm per turn: 93cm- Reel weight: 260g- Capacity: 200m/0.13mm
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Daiwa Tournament C Tubular Surfcasting Rod Black 4.25 m / 100-225 g TNC334
SVF (Super-high Volume Fiber) Nanoplus carbon blank mounted with x45 technology V-Joint fitting Fuji LC Titanium SiC rings Fuji NS-7 Titanium plate reel seat for -E models or Fuji DPS screw tubular for -F models Anti-slip coating on the parts held to the throw. Curved heel base to ensure a secure grip during technical throws Marked tip action 100 g weight screwed to the heel to balance the rod
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Daiwa N'ZON 2 Holdall - 180cm NZ2RFH180
Designed around a hard back interior with Velcro rod locators and separator, ready-made rods can be securely transported with ease. Featuring the Daiwa rod stacking system, reels can be off-set to avoid side by side placement. External storage is offered as three zippered pockets: Main – 155cm x 12 cm 5cm/ Small 58cm x 10cm x 4cm/ Tip Tube 82cm x 7.5cm. Available in 2 or 4 rod versions in 180cm or 196cm. Each also features two-way zips, reinforced base, adjustable padded shoulder strap and neoprene carry handle
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Daiwa Team Coup Rod Silver 6.89 m TD70TEBF
Team Daiwa telescopic whips have been given a boost in high modulus carbon cross-wrapped with x45 technology. The hollow tips offer a fast action through the tip. Their power makes them ideal for targeting quality silverfish - roach, rudd, tench or bream - as well as for wild trout fishing with natural baits (known as barre fishing), a whip technique growing in popularity in Europe. These technical whips are also ideal for long-lining with wagglers (known as franglaise fishing).Features:- High Volume Fibre (HVF) carbon wrapped with x45 technology- Telescopic- 2 grips on handle- Powerful tip action- PVC buttcap with antishock internal coating- EVA cap for top of butt section- Hollow carbon tip- …
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