only rods
in all categories
only rods
Search
United Kingdom
Log in
Gadgets
Phones
Cases
Headphones
Wearables
Power banks
Chargers for gadgets
Portable Speakers
Action Cameras
Quadcopters
All categories
Computing
Laptops
Tablets
Gaming Consoles
Monitors
PC
Components
Printing
Wi-Fi
Keyboards & Mice
All categories
Photo
Cameras
Lenses
Flashes
Action Cameras
Memory Cards
Tripods
Steadicams
Batteries
Studio Lights
All categories
TV
TVs
Monitors
Mounts & Stands
Media Players
Projectors
Soundbars
Gaming Consoles
VR
Cables
All categories
Audio
Headphones
Headsets
Portable Speakers
Audio Systems
Speakers
Acoustics
Hi-Fi & Accessories
Cables
Musical Instruments
All categories
Appliances
Embedded Appliances
Small Household
Hygiene
Washing Machines
Fridges
Cookers
Hoods
Ovens
Vacuum Cleaners
All categories
Climate
Air Conditioners
Water Heaters
Heaters
Boilers
Heat pumps
Radiators
Humidifiers
Pumps and water supply
Fireplaces
All categories
Home
Plumbing
Building Materials
Tableware
Furniture
UPS and electrical
Smart Home & Security
Tools
Health
Cosmetic Accessories
Pets
All categories
Kids & Toys
Strollers
Cribs
High Chairs
Diapers
Car Seats
School
Bicycles
Toys & Entertainment
RC Toys
All categories
Automotive
Tyres
Rims
Child Car Seats
Dashcams
Car Audio
Batteries
Engine Oils
Pressure Washes
Moto
All categories
Tools
Tools
Tool kits
Hand Tools
Garden Equipment
Garden Tools
Construction
Ladders
Generators
Welders
All categories
Tourism
Backpacks
Suitcases
Tents
Sleeping Bags
Flashlights
Thermoses
Burners
BBQs & Braziers
Fishing
All categories
Sport
Bicycles
Activities & Electric Vehicles
Team Sports
Water sports
Winter Sports
Action Cameras
Fitness Machines
Fitness & Exercise
Sports Nutrition
All categories
Fashion & Accessories
Watches
Wearables
Jewelry
Handbags & Haberdashery
Beauty & Care
Hygiene
Cosmetics & Fragrances
Umbrellas
All categories
More+
Gadgets
Computing
Photo
TV
Audio
Appliances
Climate
Home
Kids & Toys
Automotive
Tools
Tourism
Sport
Fashion & Accessories
Catalog
/
Camping & Fishing
/
Fishing
/
Rods
Rods Westin
prices
on 253 models
Westin
clear
Save List
Show
by rating
lowest to highest price
highest to lowest price
by reviews
by date of addition
Max. casting (g)
Min. casting (g)
Line test (lb)
Sections (pcs)
Tips (pcs)
Working length (cm)
Folded length (cm)
Weight (g)
Working length (cm)
Westin W6 Finesse Spinning Rod Black 2.13 m / 5-15 g W614-0712-ML
247.99
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
If you´re into light tackle predator fishing, then the W6 Finesse T&C (Texas & Carolina) rod is your new best friend.It´s superlight and sensitive with a fast tip action that will register any nibble
more→
and set the hook in any situation.It is perfect for casting soft lures or slowly twitching a Texas or Carolina rig along the bottom.You can use it when pitching small crankbaits in shallow water for perch, bass or zander.Finesse rods have just reached the next level, and you´re invited to the club.Split-hand
le with super grade EVA - compact and non-slippery.Re
el Seat:Fuji® SKSS, rubber coated.Guides:F
uji® SiC.Blank:'TORA
Y´ High Performance Carbon for superior action, casting and strength.Custom made r…
Westin W4 Powershad-t 2nd Baitcasting Black 2.55 m / 60-180 g W423-086
from
£160.99
up to
£179.99
Compare prices
2
→
Casting XXL Shads for hours might sound like a tough job, but once you lean into a monster pike it is well worth the effort. These powerful Westin Powershad-T 2nd Generation rods make getting there a
more→
lot easier, and once you´re hooked up you can be sure that the Torayca® High Performance Carbon blank will keep you in control. The W4 Powershad-T 2nd Generation rods have a softer tip, but with a lot of backbone in the blank to set the hooks. Designed for soft lures, but equally good for casting with hard lures, spinnerbaits or other heavy lures for big predators.Featu
res:- Reel Seat: Fuji® ACS Trigger- Guides: SeaGuide® LS-XQ- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon- Handle: UltraGrip – High Qu…
Westin W4 Ultrastick 2nd Jigging Rod Black 2.10 m / 10-40 g W434-0702-M
140.49
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
W4 Ultrastick 2nd.Specifications:- Length: 7´/210cm- Casting Weight: 7-28g- Sections: 1+1sec- Transport Length: 178cm- Rod Weight: 128g
Westin W4 2nd Spinning Silver 3.00 m / 10-40 g W441-1002-MH
from
£152.99
up to
£163.99
Compare prices
2
→
Say hello to the second generation of W4 Spin rods. These popular W4 Spin rods just got better. To make the W4 Spin 2nd faster and more responsive we upgraded to higher quality Torayca® fibers and res
more→
in in combination with a new blank construction. This enhances the casting distance achievable and the feeling through the rod even more. Even if you are wading, bank, or boat fishing we just know how important it is to reach out to your favourite reef. When fighting a fish, the W4 Spin 2nd features a progressive Medium/Fast action to absorb head shakes and jumps. We have kept the classic and popular premium cork handle design, but upgraded to tangle-free Seaguides® XOG guides and a rubber coated FU…
Westin W3 MonsterStick-T - 2nd Edition - 8"/240cm 6XH 150-290g 1+1sec
130.99
Buy!
£
Fishingtackleandbait.co.uk
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
The W3 Monsterstick is a powerhouse that will throw any lure in your tacklebox and handle all the predatory fish your home waters have to offer. But do not be fooled, this beast of a rod is light enou
more→
gh to fish all day thanks to its superior Torayca® blank and lightweight components. * Reel seat: ACS Trigger * Guides: Seaguide® LTS ring * Blank: Torayca® high performance japaneese carbon. * Reinforced with 1k wowen Carbon. * Premium grade EVA handle * Hook keeper: Seaguidde Dhook
Westin W10 Finesse Shad Spinning Rod Silver 2.23 m / 8-36 g W1007-0752-MH
747.99
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
The W10 Finesse Shad is the pinnacle of finesse fishing. Expertly crafted with state-of-the-ar
t Fuji® Titanium Torzite® guides and advanced TORAYCA® ´Nanoalloy® blank technology, this rod offers the u
more→
ltimate finesse fishing experience for the demanding angler. Its lightweight and responsive design allows for effortless casting, accurate presentations, and delicate retrieves. The rod´s sensitive tip allows for precise detection of even the slightest nibbles, while the strong backbone provides the power needed to set the hook and reel in your catch. Every detail has been meticulously designed to enhance your fishing experience, from the ergonomic custom designed G-Hyper carbon handle to the sl…
Westin W2 Finesse T&C - 7'1" ML 5-15g 2 Sec W214-0712-ML
from
£64.99
up to
£79.99
Compare prices
2
→
Fast and powerful, the Finesse T&C (Texas & Carolina) are ideal for a wide range of predator fishing with both hard and soft lures. The sensitive and responsive action makes these rods ideal for slowl
more→
y twitching a Texas or Carolina rig along the bottom, allowing you to feel every touch-down of the rig, and even the most timid bite. With the power to pitch small hard lures and the sensitivity needed when casting soft shads, the Finesse T&C is a great all-rounder for perch and bass, through to trout and zander. Reel Seat: Seaguide® XVS Guides: Seaguide® SXOHLSG premium guides Blank: 24 / 30 tonne High Performance Carbon Split-handle with premium grade EVA Hook keeper: Seaguide® Dhook
Westin W4 2nd Baitcasting Rod Silver 3.00 m / 10-40 g W442-1002-MH
168.99
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
Say hello to the second generation of W4 Spin rods. These popular W4 Spin rods just got better. To improve the W4 Spin-T 2nd we added a higher grade of Torayca® fibers and resin, in combination with a
more→
new blank construction for better balance, higher strength and more responsive blank. This enhances the casting distance and feel even more. You can achieve fast, progressive casts with great accuracy, and benefit from huge reserves of fighting power. This Medium/Fast action rod is at home when long casting with a baitcasting reel, making it ideal for big lakes, rivers, and coastal spinning. Sea trout, salmon and sea bass beware! We have kept the classic and popular premium cork handle design, …
Westin W2 Powerstrike - 7'6" ML 10-40g 2 Sec W201-0762-ML
from
£66.99
up to
£89.99
Compare prices
2
→
These fast-actioned rods are perfect for both hard and soft lures for hard-fighting fish like pike and zander. The powerful backbone ensures a positive hook-set, whilst the sensitive tip shows every m
more→
ovement of the lure, and even the most delicate bite. Enjoy every moment with the perfect all-round rods for powerful predators. Reel Seat: Seaguide® XVS Guides: Seaguide® SXOHLSG premium guides Blank: 24/30 tonne High Performance Carbon Split-handle with premium grade EVA Hook keeper: Seaguide® Dhook
Westin W3 Powerteez Spinning Black 2.50 m / 21-70 g W344-0842-MH
from
£116.99
up to
£125.99
Compare prices
3
→
The W3 Powerteez 2nd Generation is a series of fast actioned rods with a powerful backbone, which features great casting abilities and a very sensitive tip. Balance is a key factor when jigging or fis
more→
hing pelagic with soft lures. Thanks to Torayca® High Performance Carbon fibers, the W3 Powerteez 2nd Generation feels like a natural extension of your arm. These are key factors when jigging with soft lures after fish like zander and pike. You will not miss many bites with these rods, even a tentative nip from the most cautious fish has the potential to be turned into a fish in the net.Features:- Reel Seat: VSS- Guides: LTS Ring Guides- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon fibers reinforced wi…
Westin W6 Spoon Spinning Rod Golden 2.13 m / 2-10 g W624-0712-ML
177.99
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
Fishing rods Spinning Westin. W6 Spoon Spinning Rod
Westin W2 Spin - 8'1'' L 3-15g 2 Sec W221-0812-L
from
£65.49
up to
£69.99
Compare prices
2
→
Packing plenty of punch, the W2 Spin range are designed to cover the full range of spoons, spinners and wobblers, when targeting both freshwater and coastal predators. The ultra-sensitive action of th
more→
ese rods enables you to feel every flutter and movement of the lure, whilst still delivering great casting performance. Built to Westin’s legendary design standards, these are the ideal rods for coastal excursions for seatrout, freshwater trout and salmon fishing and perch, bass and zander, thanks to their versatility. The four-piece rods are even more versatile, making them ideal for the travelling angler, or for keeping in the boot of the car for those last-minute fishing sessions. Reel sea…
Westin W3 Finesse Crank-t 2nd Baitcasting Silver 2.10 m / 10-30 g W359
from
£103.99
up to
£107.99
Compare prices
3
→
Ever wanted to fish with braid that behaved like fluorocarbon? Sound like a pipe dream? Well think again - the W3 Finesse Crank-T 2nd Generation rods from Westin have a specially designed blank that c
more→
ompensates for the lack of stretch in braid. This is great news for crankbait fishing fans, who know all too well the benefits of the stretch and density that fluorocarbon line normally offers - now you have the best of both worlds - because Westin is nice like that. You can throw and work those crankbaits all day long and this rod will take it in its stride, but it also has a wonderfully sensitive feeling, thanks to the low weight and the split handle design, that always keeps you in touch with …
Westin W3 2nd Travel Spinning Rod Black 3.00 m / 7-30 g W337-1004-M
103.99
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
The W3 2nd generation range of spin fishing rods packs in proprietary technologies to provide a new benchmark in performance at an unbelievable value. The result is ultra-sensitive fishing rods which
more→
are strong with improved durability. Featuring Westin's exclusive Torayca® High Performance Carbon and combined with super premium reel seats, guides and exclusive full length cork handle, these rods gives you exemplary performance with spoons, spinners and coast wobblers.Featur
es:- Reel seat: VSS (screw down)- Guides: Seaguide ® LTS- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon for superior action and casting- Handle: Premium grade Cork /EVA- Reinforced with 1K carbonSpecifica
tions:- Length: 7´/210cm- Clas…
Westin W4 Finesse Shad 2nd Spinning Silver 2.20 m / 10-28 g W435-0742
from
£143.99
up to
£159.99
Compare prices
2
→
If you are in need of a bit more power compared to the rest of our finesse rods, then the W4 Finesse Shad 2nd Generation is the rod for you. The W4 Finesse Shad 2nd Generation rods are a series of lig
more→
ht to medium light predator rods. These rods are as versatile as any rod can get, which makes them perfect for a wide variety of fishing styles with both soft & hard lures, targeting species like perch, zander, asp, trout and pike. Made on a progressive fast and sensitive blank, which gives a premium feel and excellent strike detection, while still being powerful enough to set the hook and fight big fish.Features:- Reel Seat: Fuji® SKS- Guides: Seaguide® LS Ring Guides- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Car…
Westin W6 Powershad Spinning Rod Black 2.40 m / 15-40 g W618-0802-MH
272.49
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
W6 Powershad.The Westin W6 Powershads are in a class of their own.A powerful, super light blank, deep action and slightly softer tip make it perfect for throwing lures from boat or bank.It really come
more→
s into its own fishing soft lures, where the soft tip gives you supreme control, but it handles crankbaits just as well.TORAY carbon blank contributes greatly to the sensitivity and feel while retaining great power - it´s the perfect weapon for perch, zander and pike.Split-hand
le with super grade EVA - compact and non-slippery.Re
el Seat:Fuji® TVS, rubber coated.Guides:F
uji® SiC.Blank:'TORA
Y´ High Performance Carbon for superior action, casting and strength.Custom made rubber gimbal, non-slippery.Lo
w-…
Westin W4 Powercast-t 2nd Baitcasting Silver 2.55 m / 40-130 g W422-08
from
£161.49
up to
£179.99
Compare prices
3
→
The action and features of these rods were carefully designed to meet the demands of the modern predator specialists. These rods are designed for spinning reels, casting with hard & soft lures, and sp
more→
innerbaits for huge pike. The W4 Powercast-T 2nd Generation rods are hugely versatile and feature the finest Japanese Torayca® carbon fibers, genuine spigot joints and the very best in guides and reel seats from SeaGuide® and Fuji®.Features:
- Reel Seat: Fuji® ACS- Guides: SeaGuide® LS-XQ- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon- Handle: UltraGrip – high quality EVA- Custom made rubber non-slip bottom cap- Reinforced with 1k woven carbon- SeaGuide® D-Hook hook keeper
Westin W4 Streetstick 2nd Spinning Rod Black 1.83 m / 2-7 g W438-0612-L
136.99
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
The W4 Streetstick 2nd Generation rods take ultra-light fishing to a whole new level. These rods are as light as anything you can get and will, without question, put you in the fight of a lifetime whe
more→
n you hook up. This rod range is suitable for any type of ultra-light to light style fishing, whether it's for trout, perch, asp, middle-sized pike and zander, or various saltwater species. Ideal for fishing with both soft lures, hard lures or spinners, and spoons.Features
:- Reel Seat: Fuji® SKS- Guides: Seaguide® LS Ring Guides- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon- Handle: UltraGrip – High Quality EVA- Custom made rubber non-slip bottom cap- Reinforced with 1k woven carbon- Custom designed hook …
Westin W4 2nd Spinning Silver 2.70 m / 7-30 g W441-0902-MH
from
£152.49
up to
£161.99
Compare prices
3
→
Say hello to the second generation of W4 Spin rods. These popular W4 Spin rods just got better. To make the W4 Spin 2nd faster and more responsive we upgraded to higher quality Torayca® fibers and res
more→
in in combination with a new blank construction. This enhances the casting distance achievable and the feeling through the rod even more. Even if you are wading, bank, or boat fishing we just know how important it is to reach out to your favourite reef. When fighting a fish, the W4 Spin 2nd features a progressive Medium/Fast action to absorb head shakes and jumps. We have kept the classic and popular premium cork handle design, but upgraded to tangle-free Seaguides® XOG guides and a rubber coated FU…
Westin W3 Powercast-t 2nd Baitcasting Black 2.48 m / 40-130 g W334-083
from
£106.99
up to
£121.99
Compare prices
2
→
The improved and reinforced 2nd generation of our popular W3 Powercast-T series is designed to meet the demands of the modern predator angler. These rods are designed for multiplier reels when fishing
more→
lures, shads and spinner baits for huge pike. W3 Powercast-T feature the finest Japanese TORAYCA® High Performance Carbon for superior action and casting, rigged with quality components from Seaguide®.Featu
res:- Reel Seat: SKC Trigger- Hook keper: Seaguide® Dhook- Guides: Seaguide LTS ring guides- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon blank, Reinforced with 1k wowen Carbon- Handle: Premium EVA handleSpecifica
tions:- Length: 7´9´´/233cm- Classification: 3XH- Casting Weight: 60-150g- Sections: 2sec- T…
Westin W3 Streetstick Rod 2nd Generation - 6'1'' L 2-7g W355-0612-L
80.67
Buy!
£
Fishingtackleandbait.co.uk
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
Get ready for a fishing rod that could quickly become an essential ultra-light alternative to your heavier rods! The W3 Streetstick 2nd Generation rods covers a wide range of fishing types with light
more→
weight hard and soft lures. Whether your prize fish is perch, medium sized pike/zander, trout or spiny critters from the sea - this range keeps you covered. A soft tip, but with a medium-fast action blank, means you can fish and throw lures all day. Grab your shades, your cap and your W3 Streetstick 2nd Gen and you're good to go. We guarantee that you won’t be able to catch something on this rod range, without having a huge smile on your face! Reel Seat: SKS Guides: Seaguide® LS ring
Westin W2 Monsterstick-T 7'9" 5XH 130-260g 1+1 Sec W208-0792-5XH
from
£83.99
up to
£99.99
Compare prices
2
→
Designed to comfortably cast the biggest lures in your box, all day long, yet retaining the sensitivity to keep you in total control. The Monsterstick-T is a deceptively light, yet immensely powerful
more→
rod, designed to tame the largest Esox in the world. Reel seat: Seaguide ® XCSS Trigger Guides: Seaguide® SXQLSG premium guides Blank: 24 / 30 tonne High Performance Carbon Detachable butt for easy storage whilst retaining ‘one-piece performance’ Premium grade EVA handle Hook keeper: Seaguide® Dhook
Westin W3 Jerkbait Baitcasting Black 1.95 m / 20-80 g W350-0662-H
from
£96.99
up to
£107.99
Compare prices
2
→
The W3 Jerkbait 2nd Generation rods are the perfect tool to have in your boat when targeting big ferocious predators. These medium action rods have all the muscle and backbone you need to cast and jer
more→
k heavy lures, set the hook, and bring in monster pike or muskie, while being sensitive enough to make it joyful to use. Even after a full day on the water casting heavy lures, you will not feel any pain in your body, due to the low weight blank.Features:
- Reel Seat: SKC Trigger- Guides: Seaguide® LS ring guides- Blank: Torayca® High performance Carbon blank Reinforced with 1K woven carbon- Handle: Premium grade EVA handle with rubber cork insertSpecifica
tions:- Model: W3 2nd Jerkbait-T- Length: 6´…
Westin W3 Bass Finesse T Spinning Rod Blue 2.13 m / 7-21 g W353-0711-M
93.49
Buy!
£
WaveINN
Delivery: in United Kingdom
Report
The W3 Bass Finesse-T T&C 2nd (Texas & Carolina) is an excellent rod for predator fishing with both soft and hard lures. The rod is light and sensitive but fast and powerful enough to set the hook in
more→
the hard, bony mouth of any predator! It is perfect for casting soft lures or slowly twitching a Texas or Carolina rig along the bottom. You can use it when pitching small hard lures in shallow water for bass or targeting trout and walleye in deeper areas. W3 Finesse-T T&C 2nd is a great all-round tool for light and medium style predator fishing!Feature
s:- Reel Seat: SKC- Guides: Seaguide® LTS ring guides- Blank: Torayca® High Performance Carbon for superior action and casting- Split-handle with pr…
24
more item(s)
1
2
3
4
5
...
11
Filters
Nothing found
Price
from
£
up to
£
Brands
13 Fishing
Abu Garcia
Airflo
Akami
AquaticaLeo
Arno
Ashima
Attwood
Avid
Avid Carp
Baetis
Benzar Mix
Berkley
BFT
Black Cat
BOKOR
Browning
Caperlan
Carp Expert
Carp Spirit
CarpHunter
Cinnetic
Cresta
Ctec
D.A.M.
Daiwa
Delphin
Diem
Dragon
Drennan
Energo Team
Evergreen
Falcon
Favorite
Fox
Fox Rage
Gamakatsu
Garbolino
Grauvell
Grays
Greys
Guru
HARDY
Hart
Hearty Rise
Hydra7
IMAX
JACK
Jaxon
JLC
JRC
Junior
Kali
Kali Kunnan
Kamasaki
Kinetic
KIT
Kolpo
Korda
Korum
Kougar
Lineaeffe
Litle Fish
M&W
MadCat
Major Craft
MAP
Matrix
Maver
Mikado
Mistrall
Mitchell
Mivardi
Molix
Mustad
Nash
NGT
Nomura
Okuma
Orvis
PENN
Preston
Prologic
Prowess
Quantum
Radical
Rapala
Renzo Valdieri
Rhino
Robinson
ROD
Ron Thompson
Ryobi
Sakura
Salmo
Savage Gear
Scierra
Scotty
Sea Monsters
Seika
SERT
Shakespeare
Shimano
Slowmoose
SONIK
Spomb
Sportex
SPRO
St. Croix
Stonfo
STR
Sugoi
Takeshi Kids
TENRYU
Tica
Tubertini
Vercelli
West Lake
Westin
Williamson
Wizard
Wychwood
Xzoga
Yokozuna
Zebco
ZFISH
ZunZun
Brand rating
All brands
Main brands
Series
Type
spinning
carp
feeder / picker
bolognese
match
surf
pole
universal
casting
fly fishing
winter
marker
boat / catfish / power
spod
Design
plug
telescopic
solid
Rod action
extra fast
fast
medium fast
medium
progressive
medium slow
slow
Tip
glued (Solid Tip)
hollow (Tubular Tip)
Working length
≤ 2 m
201 – 225 cm
226 – 250 cm
251 – 300 cm
301 – 350 cm
351 – 400 cm
401 – 500 cm
501 – 700 cm
> 7 m
Maximum casting
≤ 10 g
11 – 20 g
21 – 30 g
31 – 40 g
41 – 50 g
51 – 100 g
101 – 150 g
151 – 200 g
> 200 g
Line test
2.75 lb
3 lb
3.25 lb
3.5 lb
> 3.5 lb
Sections
2
3
4
5 pcs
≥ 6
roll up
more
Rod material
composite
carbon (graphite)
fibreglass
Handle material
cork
foam rubber
foam plastic
plastic
carbon
Folded length
≤ 75cm
75 – 100 cm
101 – 125 cm
126 – 150 cm
151 – 200 cm
> 2 m
Weight
≤ 100 g
101 – 150 g
151 – 200 g
201 – 250 g
251 – 300 g
301 – 350 g
351 – 400 g
> 400 g
More features
with rings
no rings
Clear parameters
Got ideas or questions about filters? Click here!
Models
on sale
all
Brands
Abu Garcia
Caperlan
D.A.M.
Daiwa
Favorite
Lineaeffe
Matrix
Maver
Mikado
Nomura
Prologic
Savage Gear
Shakespeare
Shimano
West Lake
All brands
(
rod type
)
Rod type
Design
Working length
Maximum casting
Series
one-piece
Questions and suggestions for model selection →
Catalog
/
Rods
/
Westin
Compare
Comparison
Bookmarks
History
0
product
for total:
from
This website uses cookies. Proceeding to use this website gives your consent for gathering and processing your data for analytic and marketing purposes.
Cookie settings
Yes, I agree