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Talius Spitfire
2023
programmable
Omron
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt, 1000 – 12000 DPI
Buttons:
6 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Corsair M55 RGB Pro
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lots of buttons
programmable
with memory
Omron
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3327, 12400 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Spirit of Gamer Elite-M70
2024
lots of buttons
programmable
with memory
Huano
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3312, 4800 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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11
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1
£
30.99
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Mad Catz R.A.T. 1+
2020
programmable
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt, 2000 DPI
Buttons:
3 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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MSI Clutch GM51 Lightweight
2023
Clutch
programmable
with memory
Omron
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3395, 400 – 6400 DPI
Buttons:
4 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Hama uRage Reaper 900
2022
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programmable
Omron
RGB backlight
weight adjustment
replaceable side panels
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3335, 16000 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel
In box:
replaceable side panels
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Ducky Feather RGB Omron
2022
programmable
Omron
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3389, 16000 DPI
Buttons:
6 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Endorfy GEM Plus
2022
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3370, 400 – 19000 DPI
Buttons:
5 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Redragon Gainer Wireless
2023
programmable
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio
Sensor:
PixArt 3104, 1000 – 4000 DPI
Buttons:
6 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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25.99
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Corsair M65 RGB Elite
lots of buttons
programmable
Omron
RGB backlight
weight adjustment
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3391, 18000 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel, sniper button
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Patriot Memory Viper V550
Viper
lots of buttons
programmable
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3325, 5000 DPI
Buttons:
8 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
Photos
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KLIM Blaze Pro
2023
programmable
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3325, 600 – 6000 DPI
Buttons:
5 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
Videos
7
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13
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Delux KM-M618G DB
2023
vertical
Multi-Device
Type:
wireless, Bluetooth/radio
Sensor:
PixArt 3212, 800 – 4000 DPI
Buttons:
5 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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£
32.99
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Marvo G945
2020
lots of buttons
programmable
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3325, 1000 – 10000 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel, sniper button
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Lamzu x Fnatic Thorn 4K
2024
programmable
replaceable legs
case
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3395, 26000 DPI
Buttons:
4 pcs, + wheel
In box:
replaceable legs, case
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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2
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£
94.99
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DELTACO GAM-107
2023
Omron
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3335, 16000 DPI
Buttons:
5 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Ducky Feather Blue Edition RGB
2021
programmable
Huano
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3389, 16000 DPI
Buttons:
6 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
Photos
10
Prices
1
£
96.13
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Redragon Impact Elite
0
0
1
1
2022
lots of buttons
programmable
with memory
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3317, 1000 – 16000 DPI
Buttons:
17 pcs, + wheel, double click
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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£
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Acer Predator Cestus 350
2020
Predator
lots of buttons
programmable
with memory
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3335, 16000 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Speed-Link Imperior
2022
lots of buttons
programmable
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3325, 5000 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
Videos
1
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Canyon CND-SGM04RGB
0
1
0
1
CND (gaming)
programmable
RGB backlight
Type:
gaming mouse, wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt, 800 – 4200 DPI
Buttons:
6 pcs, + wheel, double click
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Lioncast LM25
2020
lots of buttons
programmable
with memory
weight adjustment
Type:
wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3360, 12000 DPI
Buttons:
12 pcs, + wheel, double click, sniper button
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
Photos
4
Prices
1
£
21.71
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Endgame Gear XM2w
2022
programmable
with memory
Type:
gaming mouse, wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3395, 50 – 26000 DPI
Buttons:
4 pcs, + wheel
Sensor manufacturer:
PixArt
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Redragon Storm Pro
2022
lots of buttons
Huano
RGB backlight
Type:
wireless, radio / wired, USB A
Sensor:
PixArt 3335, 16000 DPI
Buttons:
7 pcs, + wheel
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replaceable legs
mouse pad
case
headphones
Weight
≤ 60 g
61 – 80 g
81 – 100 g
101 – 120 g
121 – 140 g
> 140 g
Mouse length
≤ 100 mm
101 – 110 mm
111 – 120 mm
121 – 130 mm
> 130 mm
Mouse width
≤ 55 mm
56 – 60 mm
61 – 65 mm
66 – 70 mm
71 – 75 mm
> 75 mm
Mouse height
≤ 15 mm
26 – 30 mm
31 – 35 mm
36 – 40 mm
41 – 45 mm
> 45 mm
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