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Patriot Memory Signature SO-DIMM DDR4 1x8Gb PSD48G240081S
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Patriot Memory Signature SO-DIMM DDR4 1x8Gb
PSD48G240081S
Signature
Capacity:
8 GB
Type:
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Frequency:
2400 MHz
Timing scheme:
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Kingston KSM HMR DDR5 1x32Gb KSM48R40BD8KMM-32HMR
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Kingston KSM HMR DDR5 1x32Gb
KSM48R40BD8KMM-32HMR
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Capacity:
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4800 MHz
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Crucial Value DDR/DDR2 CT12864AA667
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Crucial Value DDR/DDR2
CT12864AA667
Capacity:
1 GB
Type:
DDR2
Frequency:
667 MHz
Voltage:
1.8 V
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Samsung M323 DDR5 1x32Gb M323R4GA3BB0-CQK
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Samsung M323 DDR5 1x32Gb
M323R4GA3BB0-CQK
Capacity:
32 GB
Type:
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Frequency:
4800 MHz
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Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 RGB 1x32Gb KF548C38BBA-32
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Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 RGB 1x32Gb
KF548C38BBA-32
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Capacity:
32 GB
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Frequency:
4800 MHz
Timing scheme:
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HP 1.5V DDR3 DIMM 1x8Gb 500662-B21
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HP 1.5V DDR3 DIMM 1x8Gb
500662-B21
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Team Group Elite DDR4 1x16Gb TED416G2666C1901
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Capacity:
16 GB
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Samsung M471 DDR4 SO-DIMM 1x4Gb M471A5244CB0-CTD
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Samsung M471 DDR4 SO-DIMM 1x4Gb
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Capacity:
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G.Skill Value DDR4 1x4Gb F4-2400C17S-4GNT
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Kingston Fury Renegade DDR5 1x16Gb KF560C32RS-16
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Capacity:
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6000 MHz
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Hynix DDR3 1x8Gb HMT41GU6BFR8A-PB
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Kingston Fury Beast DDR4 RGB Special Edition 1x8Gb KF432C16BWA/8
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Hynix HMA DDR4 1x8Gb HMA41GU6AFR8N-TF
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Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 1x16Gb CM4X16GC3200C16W2E
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HyperX Fury DDR3 1x4Gb HX318C10FB/4
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Kingston KSM HMR DDR5 1x64Gb KSM48R40BD4TMM-64HMR
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Kingston Fury Renegade DDR4 Black 1x32Gb KF432C16RB2/32
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Transcend JetRam DDR5 1x8Gb JM4800ALG-8G
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Samsung M393 Registered DDR4 1x16Gb M393B2G70QH0-YK0
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GOODRAM DDR3 1x8Gb GR1333D364L9/8G
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GOODRAM DDR4 1x16Gb GR2400D464L17/16G
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GOODRAM DDR4 1x16Gb
GR2400D464L17/16G
Capacity:
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Frequency:
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Timing scheme:
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Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 1x16Gb CMK16GX4M1A2400C14
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0
Vengeance
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Team Group Elite SO-DIMM DDR4 1x8Gb TED48G2400C16-S01
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0
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HP DDR4 SO-DIMM P1N53AA
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Form factor
DIMM
SO-DIMM (for laptops)
Type
DDR3
DDR3L
DDR4
DDR5
Memory speed
≤ 1333 MHz
1600 MHz
1866 MHz
2133 MHz
2400 MHz
2666 MHz
2800 – 3000 MHz
3200 MHz
3600 MHz
3733 – 4000 MHz
4266 – 4600 MHz
4800 MHz
5200 MHz
5600 MHz
6000 MHz
6400 MHz
> 6400 MHz
Memory rank
single-rank
dual-rank
quad-rank
Features
overclocking
XMP
EXPO
buffering (registered)
unbuffered
ECC
cooling system
no cooling
backlight
no backlight
backlight sync
Module height
< 35 mm
35 – 39 mm
40 – 44 mm
≥ 45 mm
CAS latency
CL9
CL10
CL11
CL14
CL15
CL16
CL17
CL18
CL19
CL20
CL21
CL22
CL30
CL32
CL36
CL38
CL40
CL42
CL46
Voltage
1.1 V
1.2 V
1.25 V
1.35 V
1.4 V
1.45 V
1.5 V
> 1.5 V
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