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Crucial DDR4 SO-DIMM 2x8Gb CT2K8G4SFRA32A
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Crucial DDR4 SO-DIMM 2x8Gb
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Capacity:
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Patriot Memory Signature SO-DIMM DDR4 1x32Gb PSD432G32002S
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Patriot Memory Signature SO-DIMM DDR4 1x32Gb
PSD432G32002S
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Capacity:
32 GB
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G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 SO-DIMM 2x32Gb F4-3200C22D-64GRS
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G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 SO-DIMM 2x32Gb
F4-3200C22D-64GRS
Ripjaws
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64 GB
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Dell Precision Mobile Workstation 7750 DDR4 1x16Gb SNPWTHG4C/16G
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Dell Precision Mobile Workstation 7750 DDR4 1x16Gb
SNPWTHG4C/16G
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16 GB
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Transcend JetRam DDR4 SO-DIMM 1x32Gb JM3200HSE-32G
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Transcend JetRam DDR4 SO-DIMM 1x32Gb
JM3200HSE-32G
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Crucial DDR4 SO-DIMM 1x32Gb CT32G4SFD832A
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Mushkin Essentials SO-DIMM DDR4 1x16Gb MES4S320NF16G
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HP S1 SO-DIMM DDR4 1x16Gb 2E2M7AA
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Kingston KSM HD SO-DIMM DDR4 1x8Gb KSM32SES8/8HD
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Kingston KSM MR SO-DIMM DDR4 1x16Gb KSM32SED8/16MR
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Transcend JetRam SO-DIMM DDR4 1x4Gb JM3200HSH-4G
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Transcend JetRam SO-DIMM DDR4 1x4Gb
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Kingston KVR SO-DIMM DDR4 1x32Gb KVR32S22D8/32
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V7 Notebook DDR4 1x32Gb V72560032GBS
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3600 MHz
3733 – 4000 MHz
4266 – 4600 MHz
4800 MHz
5200 MHz
5600 MHz
6000 MHz
6400 MHz
> 6400 MHz
Memory rank
single-rank
dual-rank
quad-rank
Features
overclocking
XMP
EXPO
buffering (registered)
unbuffered
ECC
cooling system
no cooling
backlight
no backlight
backlight sync
Module height
< 35 mm
35 – 39 mm
40 – 44 mm
≥ 45 mm
CAS latency
CL9
CL10
CL11
CL14
CL15
CL16
CL17
CL18
CL19
CL20
CL21
CL22
CL30
CL32
CL36
CL38
CL40
CL42
CL46
Voltage
1.1 V
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1.25 V
1.35 V
1.4 V
1.45 V
1.5 V
> 1.5 V
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